Dick Morris on the 2022 and 2024 Elections

Much of the discussion around the 2020 election has hinged around the question of who won – i.e., who got the most votes – while skirting more important questions about the procedure. Was it fair?

None of the members of Team Conservative were available to comment on their report in the NCC’s Restoring the Guardrails of Democracy project, but I may have found an even better spokesperson for the frustration of the 74 million Americans who voted for Donald Trump, regarding the outcome.

My guest, legendary political consultant Dick Morris, will be the first to admit that Biden won both the popular vote, as well as the electoral college count.

“[T]he fact is, we ultimately lost because the Democrats got more legal, eligible voters to cast ballots than we did,” writes Morris in his latest book, The Return: Trump’s Big 2024 Comeback.
However, the former advisor to the Clintons diagnoses a deeper flaw in the electoral system – one that can’t be fixed by Congress or any branch of the federal government. Instead, Morris urges voters to elect Republican or neutral secretaries of state in key swing states to overturn the abuses of mail-in voting, same-day registration, and unaccountable tabulation methods – often used behind closed doors, long after the polls have closed. Morris continues:

“The election of 2020 was, in a real sense, won by the Democrats in 2018, when swing states elected their governors, attorneys general, and secretaries of state. The Democrats knew that, in order to maximize the turnout of their voters in 2020, they had to build a network of complicit, election officials to cooperate—within the law, and outside it—to swell the Biden vote and diminish Trump’s.”


The book goes on to detail Morris’s close personal relationship with Trump, and a strategy for leveling the playing field before the 2024 elections.

After revealing how state governors and secretaries of state paved the way for Biden’s win, Morris turns to Nancy Pelosi’s attempt to institutionalize these sketchy practices at the federal level through HR 1 - aka the “For the People Act of 2021.” Nevermind that the founders explicitly gave state legislatures power to regulate elections, Pelosi and the Democrats want to “vest the power" to draw district lines and adopt other regulations about elections in the federal Department of Justice and the US attorney general, appointed by the president.

Morris joined me to lay out the prospects for real reform in Arizona, Georgia, Ohio, and other states with Republican legislatures. What about Michigan, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, where Democrats control the governorship? Who wins in 2024 could depend on whether the Republicans sweep the midterms in these states.

Finally, Morris explained why the Republican nominee “Has to Be Trump,” along with the message that he believes will propel his campaign to victory.

I was also joined in the second half of the show by my new friend John Georgopolous of Sports Grumblings, who recently interviewed me on the Big Questions with Big John podcast.